NEW Vehilcles Can run on Gasoline and Water!

[B Fuhrmann]

"Bob Douglas" <***@newinventions.com> wrote in message
news:2e3b1$47d1c478$

There is a new invention out there. Thanks to new Technology you can
improve your milage by up to 50%.
And Yes your vehicle CAN drive on gas and water. I know it sounds crazy,
but it is true.

And frauds like to post messages like that.

[Mr Potatohead]

Post by B Fuhrmann
news:2e3b1$47d1c478$

There is a new invention out there. Thanks to new Technology you can
improve your milage by up to 50%.
And Yes your vehicle CAN drive on gas and water. I know it sounds crazy,
but it is true.

And frauds like to post messages like that.

I dunno, Bill. I remember hearing as a teenager many
moons ago that cars ran better on foggy nights because
the moist air gives a boost through a "steam engine"
effect in addition to the gasoline burn.

I have a friend today who insists that a few years ago
he saw and tested a contraption attached to a Vette that
gave a shot of misted air into the fuel mixture as it
entered the carburetor for the same reason with
measurable results.

I'm not saying it's true, but there might be something
to it. And I doubt one will get 50% better mileage
either. But on an intellectual level, this claim has
been around for many years.

BTW- Where did this initial post come from? I don't see
it in my "oldies been read" list. New Inventions website
is a generic inventions wanted site seeming to have no
connection to what this guy is promoting.

[Hank]

Post by Mr Potatohead

Post by B Fuhrmann
news:2e3b1$47d1c478$

There is a new invention out there. Thanks to new Technology you can
improve your milage by up to 50%.
And Yes your vehicle CAN drive on gas and water. I know it sounds crazy,
but it is true.

And frauds like to post messages like that.

I dunno, Bill. I remember hearing as a teenager many
moons ago that cars ran better on foggy nights because
the moist air gives a boost through a "steam engine"
effect in addition to the gasoline burn.
I have a friend today who insists that a few years ago
he saw and tested a contraption attached to a Vette that
gave a shot of misted air into the fuel mixture as it
entered the carburetor for the same reason with
measurable results.
I'm not saying it's true, but there might be something
to it. And I doubt one will get 50% better mileage
either. But on an intellectual level, this claim has
been around for many years.
BTW- Where did this initial post come from? I don't see
it in my "oldies been read" list. New Inventions website
is a generic inventions wanted site seeming to have no
connection to what this guy is promoting.

Actually this contraption generates Hydrogen gas which is sucked in
and burned with the gasoline. I have been looking into it myself for
about the past month as this idea seems to be getting bigger and
bigger over the past year. I do not know if it works but it does make
sence but also do not think it will give you 50% increase. As for the
foggy night effect I heard about that back around 1978 and did some
playing around with it back then but then lost intrest in it as I was
like 19 at the time. So if anyone has tried this Nitrogen injection
system and has any input I would be intrested in hearing about it.

Hank
85 GT 70K miles
85 SE 180K miles

[Brian]

Water is a non-compressable liquid, it would break the valves and pistons if
injected into the cylinders. That's why you don't try to run a motor with a
bad head gasket, it would damage the motor from the antifreeze(water) in the
cylinder.
Try it if you dont believe me. Put water in a glass and see if you can
compress it into a smaller space without breaking the glass, same effect it
has on a cylinder. unlike a gas that does compress, or combustable substance
that when compressed explodes into a gas. If you use electrolysis to
seperate the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen gasses you can burn water. This
is the theory behind the green cars and using a renewable fuel source. Check
out this video:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/128967/water_as_fuel/

Post by Mr Potatohead

Post by B Fuhrmann
news:2e3b1$47d1c478$

There is a new invention out there. Thanks to new Technology you can
improve your milage by up to 50%.
And Yes your vehicle CAN drive on gas and water. I know it sounds crazy,
but it is true.

And frauds like to post messages like that.

I dunno, Bill. I remember hearing as a teenager many
moons ago that cars ran better on foggy nights because
the moist air gives a boost through a "steam engine"
effect in addition to the gasoline burn.
I have a friend today who insists that a few years ago
he saw and tested a contraption attached to a Vette that
gave a shot of misted air into the fuel mixture as it
entered the carburetor for the same reason with
measurable results.
I'm not saying it's true, but there might be something
to it. And I doubt one will get 50% better mileage
either. But on an intellectual level, this claim has
been around for many years.
BTW- Where did this initial post come from? I don't see
it in my "oldies been read" list. New Inventions website
is a generic inventions wanted site seeming to have no
connection to what this guy is promoting.

Actually this contraption generates Hydrogen gas which is sucked in
and burned with the gasoline. I have been looking into it myself for
about the past month as this idea seems to be getting bigger and
bigger over the past year. I do not know if it works but it does make
sence but also do not think it will give you 50% increase. As for the
foggy night effect I heard about that back around 1978 and did some
playing around with it back then but then lost intrest in it as I was
like 19 at the time. So if anyone has tried this Nitrogen injection
system and has any input I would be intrested in hearing about it.

Hank
85 GT 70K miles
85 SE 180K miles

[ron]

Another story I read maybe 4 years ago, an egineer changed out the
valves to computer timing so he could use engine braking to compress
gas into a tank on the car. When you started back up the car would use
the compressed gas first. We all know that you use the most energy to
brake friction so why not use the cheapest sorce possible, the
compressed gas you just created. It moved the pistons just fine and
when it go low you turned back on the gas.

Now why this is not on the market yet I have no idea!!! I read it at
that shop getting an oil change.

Sound more than reasonable to me. I guess I should look for that on
the web and post it here, if i can find it ;-/

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:15:13 -0500, "Brian"

Post by Brian
Water is a non-compressable liquid, it would break the valves and pistons if
injected into the cylinders. That's why you don't try to run a motor with a
bad head gasket, it would damage the motor from the antifreeze(water) in the
cylinder.
Try it if you dont believe me. Put water in a glass and see if you can
compress it into a smaller space without breaking the glass, same effect it
has on a cylinder. unlike a gas that does compress, or combustable substance
that when compressed explodes into a gas. If you use electrolysis to
seperate the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen gasses you can burn water. This
is the theory behind the green cars and using a renewable fuel source. Check
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/128967/water_as_fuel/

Post by Mr Potatohead

Post by B Fuhrmann
news:2e3b1$47d1c478$

There is a new invention out there. Thanks to new Technology you can
improve your milage by up to 50%.
And Yes your vehicle CAN drive on gas and water. I know it sounds crazy,
but it is true.

And frauds like to post messages like that.

I dunno, Bill. I remember hearing as a teenager many
moons ago that cars ran better on foggy nights because
the moist air gives a boost through a "steam engine"
effect in addition to the gasoline burn.
I have a friend today who insists that a few years ago
he saw and tested a contraption attached to a Vette that
gave a shot of misted air into the fuel mixture as it
entered the carburetor for the same reason with
measurable results.
I'm not saying it's true, but there might be something
to it. And I doubt one will get 50% better mileage
either. But on an intellectual level, this claim has
been around for many years.
BTW- Where did this initial post come from? I don't see
it in my "oldies been read" list. New Inventions website
is a generic inventions wanted site seeming to have no
connection to what this guy is promoting.

Actually this contraption generates Hydrogen gas which is sucked in
and burned with the gasoline. I have been looking into it myself for
about the past month as this idea seems to be getting bigger and
bigger over the past year. I do not know if it works but it does make
sence but also do not think it will give you 50% increase. As for the
foggy night effect I heard about that back around 1978 and did some
playing around with it back then but then lost intrest in it as I was
like 19 at the time. So if anyone has tried this Nitrogen injection
system and has any input I would be intrested in hearing about it.
Hank
85 GT 70K miles
85 SE 180K miles

[Mr Potatohead]

Post by ron
Another story I read maybe 4 years ago, an egineer changed out the
valves to computer timing so he could use engine braking to compress
gas into a tank on the car. When you started back up the car would use
the compressed gas first. We all know that you use the most energy to
brake friction so why not use the cheapest sorce possible, the
compressed gas you just created. It moved the pistons just fine and
when it go low you turned back on the gas.
Now why this is not on the market yet I have no idea!!! I read it at
that shop getting an oil change.
Sound more than reasonable to me. I guess I should look for that on
the web and post it here, if i can find it ;-/

Yeah, see if you can find it. I'm not creating a picture
in my mind of what you are saying but it sounds interesting.

I know that you can blow the muffler off your car by
using the engine to slow the car down by shutting off
the key and coasting. When you then give it ignition,
there is a shitload of gas in the cylinders and when she
blows, you'll be leaving your exhaust system in the
road. :-)

Been there.

[Robert W Hughes]

I know that you can blow the muffler off your car by using the engine to
slow the car down by shutting off the key and coasting. When you then
give it ignition, there is a shitload of gas in the cylinders and when
she blows, you'll be leaving your exhaust system in the road. :-)
Been there.

That's a carbureted trick, EFI won't (shouldn't) do that.

Also a car engine doesn't have the compression ratio to build up much
over 200psi, going to need a big tank to get very far on that.

[c***@mts.net]

Post by Mr Potatohead
I dunno, Bill. I remember hearing as a teenager many
moons ago that cars ran better on foggy nights because
the moist air gives a boost through a "steam engine"
effect in addition to the gasoline burn.

Back in ther day. When I was just staring out in the 'business', I
had a car come in that was badly carboned up. My boss heated the
engine up to near boiling and upended a 10 oz coke bottle full of
water into the carb - engine running at 3500-4000 rpm. It was amazing
to watch the water being sucked out of the bottle at slow rate and it
wasn't just water vapour coming out the exhaust. There was a lot of
black crap as well. That engine ran considerably better than when it
came in. Allegedly, the water blasts into steam and the shock
fractures and breaks out carbon deposits.

Some years later, I was tearing an engine down and 2 of the piston
tops were badly pitted. Looked like tiny bombs craters. The valves
for those holes looked 'cleaner' as well. I learned that this was a
result of water blasting (cavitating ) the pistons for an extended
time. The look was different than antifreeze blasting.

This was back in the day - when people did some strange things like
drain the antifreeze in the summer and replace it with water because
you only needed afreeze in the winter and there was sense in wasting
it when it was warm. Or flatten all the tires in the fall and pump in
winter air for winter driving - also known as winterizing the car.
And then there was the guy who came in once a month like clockwork to
have the choke reset and the timing checked to maintain his 12 yr old
car warranty. And don't even think about driving the car with lites
on during the day and wasting electricity.

Pete